Ep 51. Desecrated Sweatlodge

[00:00:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and I heard the first off said, call out. And then the first off said, I'm trying to radio and

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_02]: scream, holy shit, the goat man. And I mean it's like everything went quiet. And I'm

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: like back to here, the ringing in my ears. I can feel my heart raised. So I hit my light

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was flying up there.

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been told by some old, old people, elders here. You grab them and you hold them

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: in your own. You don't own them but you hold them there until daylight. If we can hold

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: them or pull it in, pull them into the light, destroy anything they have. Any kind

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: of power or anything that we're anything they were trying to do, even a little destroy on.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_06]: This guy was like bouncing. Like, you know, like how he see people kind of getting ready

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_06]: to jake, you know how they kind of bounce? Yeah, he was like that way. He was just kind

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_06]: of bouncing and he was just kind of going back and forth and one foot through the other

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: and he just kind of turns sideways and he turned back over because anyway, and he took off

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: always shitty jumping wanders. Welcome back, everyone. He listened to Lodge Tales and

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: your host Rod Williamson. This next guest is a returning guest and he wants to remain anonymous

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: as he did the last time he was on. You can refer back to his time he was on the podcast. His

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: episode is, do you remember that doll? That was his other episode. So in this one we talk about

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: an instance that happened in his life where a sweat lodge that his dad had erected and had rights

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to and he used to run was desecrated basically torn down after he had passed and it was kind of

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: done in a bad way. And the things that happened after that took place is a pretty

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: harrowing story and experience that his family had experienced afterwards. And

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, you can't fool with things like that. You shouldn't ever bother those.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you never know what to do when it comes to these these sacred things you ask,

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: you ask somebody, are you tell them what's going on? You know this is happening, can you help me?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you give me direction? Whatever it is, like if you wanted that removed ask ask about how to go

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: about doing something like that. Well, it's likely to tell you just leave it there and let the earth

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: take it back, you know. But you ask ask somebody what to do with things like that. And

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: this story here about to hear these series of stories in this podcast, this episode you're about

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to hear are huge result of what could happen when things like that go down, you know, it's really

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: a crazy thing that you were going to do and experience if that happens. So

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: toward the end of the podcast though we start talking more about, you know, when people pass

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and just kind of some experiences around that, but you know, people pass in a way and

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: some different things. But you know, you'll get into that I don't want to give too much that

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: away. It's it's a good lesson. So let's get into the show.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Back in light, EV 5, EV 4 85, somewhere in there.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_05]: EV 5. As about, oh, I would guess about eight or nine years old. Well,

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: it might have been earlier than that. It must have been about 83 84. But it was few years after my

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_05]: dad passed away. And so I have an older half sibling. I have a few older half siblings.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And one of them, he just just did not have you all the way around, you know. And

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_05]: about one of the things that he always did is he was very stubborn and it must just run

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_05]: in the family because they're all stubborn but he was one of the ones that doesn't use

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_05]: a lot of common sense, you know. And let's say a lot about him because my other siblings are

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_05]: the same way. You know, but my dad when he was alive, you know, he would sweat and he would do

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_05]: different things ceremony, you know, the eyes and stuff like that. And so when he passed away,

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, his sweat was still up, it was uncovered and everything. But one of the things

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_05]: that we were always told when we were going up was that, you know, sweat and stuff like that.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_05]: You always leave them, you know, alone after the person passed his away. You don't touch them,

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_05]: you don't try to use them. You don't do anything with them. You just let them, you know,

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_05]: basically disintegrate and go back to the earth, you know. And so my half sibling, my brother,

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_05]: he, he came out to stay with us and lived out in that time. I believe, uh, portman,

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_05]: working. And he would come out and he would stay and, you know, just periodically. So he came out

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_05]: and he started messing around on it. My dad sweat. My mom told him, don't be missing

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_05]: your dad's stuff, you need to be alone. And he just, you know, didn't pay no attention, you know,

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_05]: like I did. He went down there and he cut it all up. And my mom was really mad at him. She told

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_05]: him, she said, you dumb, you know, and that's, you know, you can't be messing with things. You

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_05]: understand with him, he didn't go up on the reservation. My house siblings never did. I mean,

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: they grew up on reservations but different ones. But with us in particular, Latte were very, you know,

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_05]: and you know, this very stonch on how we do to, you know, very strict. And so if somebody tells

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_05]: you, don't do that because of this, you don't do it. So anyways, he cut it down and um,

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_05]: a few weeks later, he laughed and he ended up over in New York City as little side note on this.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_05]: She told him she, my mom told him, you're going to end up having some bad luck because of that.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And when he laughed, he ended up over in New York City as a few months later, and he ended up

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_05]: getting his head bashed and, and cut his eye knock doll. He lived, you know, that's the one

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_05]: good thing about our family, have hard heads. Oh, man, he lived but he lost his eye.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, flat, you know, going back to, you know, art, us on the rails, he, um, after he did that,

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_05]: we're things start happening like, um, first it started out as little sounds at night time,

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, and I told you a little bit of my about my house before and some of the stuff that

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_05]: was going on there. Well, this was kind of I think that in my mind it was the, um, it was the event

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_05]: that, you know, like the zero patient again, you know, and so little things start happening

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_05]: on the sounds and stuff. It, you know, it started out like banging at night.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_05]: They were here in concrete with, uh, like when somebody's busing up concrete with, like, say a sludge

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_05]: sludge hammer, you've heard that like, you kind of like, team team, you know, it's pretty loud.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, um, so it started out like that where it was, uh, this hammer, metal hammer, it sounded

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_05]: like on concrete and it would always happen at night time. Yeah, with team team, like somebody was

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_05]: trying to bus something. And, um, you know, we didn't know what to make, but my mom didn't know

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_05]: to make of it, you know. We were just, you know, my mom was very devote and pray, you know.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And so she would just pray, you know, and, you know, and this just kept happening.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And then little events start happening. Um, and I told you a little bit before about, you know,

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_05]: her scene that's in come out of my sister's room. Um, yeah, um, uh, you know, just the refresh

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_05]: everybody, you know, it's kind of like, uh, the yellow-eyed green creature, you know.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, kind of picture the black-loved moon, um, that the creature from the black-loved,

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, kind of, I guess is the best way to describe it. Anyway, um, so those things start

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_05]: happening here in there, you know. And the one thing about my family and you know, there's some

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_05]: being around us, um, you know, we always welcome everybody into our home. Yeah.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_05]: We always had relatives staying with us and, you know, and for the most part, all my cousin,

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, when they would stay with us, you know, they didn't dream or anything like that,

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_05]: or do drugs at the house, you know, they knew better. It's my mom would come on glue to

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: on them, you know. But, you know, she was, you know, so they respected her and especially respected my dad,

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_05]: you know. So, um, when they would stay, they would just hang out and visit,

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, you know, on the typical team of this joke around, have fun.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And so, you know, they do this all all the time, you know, we'd have cousins that would come out

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_05]: and because of our hills and where our house sat, um, they would run the hills out there,

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: because you know, one more athlete, you know, they'd come to me across country athletes and

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: basketball players and stuff like that. Because my dad was really into sports, you know, so it was really

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_05]: encouraged people to do that stuff, you know, just saying, and you know, just, you know,

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_05]: make a good life for themselves. So, you know, a lot of my cousins were very athletic. Anyway,

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_05]: so, um, so, you know, we sure this all the time there's hammer and stuff and we just went on for

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_05]: what seemed like months and months. And, um, pretty soon it stopped, right? Just stopped when they

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_05]: stopped doing that. So, kind of just to soon more, whatever the heck it was is, you know, when

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_05]: we were, or at rest. But after that stopped, then even more stuff started happening. You'd have, um,

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_05]: people crying outside. Um, I told you a little bit about how the house one night tried to

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: suck my sister out of window and all this weird stuff started happening. You had, you know, things

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_05]: that were just show up. And, you know, best way to describe it is it's just, it was just, you know,

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_05]: so much going on that of this, it was just weird. Um, you'd see apparitions, there was these three

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: apparitions that would walk by the house every night and merely go to this pile of rocks,

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe it's time to end that. And, you know, it was like that even though we were there,

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_05]: and so like my sister and my cousin, they both followed them actually, which, you know,

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_05]: kind of stupid. But also, you know, they wanted to see what the heck was going on. Those

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_05]: three spirits are apparitions that paid them no attention. You know, this literally followed

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_05]: them to that pile of rocks and it'll not even like there's a nuts and um, but they would do that.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And then, um, so one night, all my cousins were there was like, uh, let's see one. So there

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_05]: is about eight to ten people in the house. And, um, you know, just hanging out like, you know,

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_05]: like, no, I'm all just doing their thing and joking around. They had some food, you know,

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_05]: like I think they got some pizzas and just pop and stuff and chips, you know, typical resume,

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: you know? Yeah. And hanging out in the house and somebody noticed these two apparitions

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_05]: standing down by wearing my dad's sweat, less. And they were cold all in like traditional clothing,

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_05]: you know? But it was like a glowing buckskin, like a white buckskin, but it was glowing, you know?

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And one of my cousins he was passed away now, but he was really not having, you know, thought

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_05]: this, you know, just this tough guy, you know, the stuff him and my other cousin decided they

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_05]: wanted to go down there because he had that time. I believe my mom's back was out of it,

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_05]: you know? Because she'd always have problems with her back. And so they're telling her about

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_05]: this, you know, that there seems to apparitions down by where dad's sweat was. And she told them,

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_05]: don't go down there, don't, you know? And don't bother with that. And so, but, you know, teenagers

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_05]: being teenagers, they had it down there and it was those two, while that was like,

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_05]: those two cousins, plus my sister, I don't know, my sister's taking a house, plus my other cousin

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and I want to say one other cousin so there was like four or five of them that end down there

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_05]: and front this two apparitions. So they go down there and from what my cousin said, the one that,

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, went with him and I want to say who she was but she said that my cousin who picked up

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_05]: this pipe, metal pipe that was laying down there on the ground because my dad, you know,

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_05]: he had like, you know, things laying around like pipes, you know, plumbing of soft and

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_05]: whatever it was he was working on at the time. And so he grabbed this little bar,

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_05]: because he grabbed this little bar and he went down there and he was telling these two

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_05]: apparitions that they weren't welcome there and all this stuff, you know, that we need to leave.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And they kept, you know, he kept doing that and there's two apparitions just to get

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_05]: started out and the nail operation he had like a stick, like a glowing stick that looked

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_05]: in there according to my cousin and it was like glowing. And you know, this is really stuff,

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, it's almost like, if nobody had seen it, they'd be like, oh man, you know,

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_05]: sounds like, you know, some side-fight stuff going on here. You know, this is really good stuff,

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_05]: you know? Yeah. And so he takes this metal pipe because these things are just looking at him

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_05]: like, who care what she said we're staying right here and he raised that pipe because it

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_05]: is that pipe to hit this spirit. And when he went to hit that spirit with his pipe,

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_05]: that spirit just raised that stick in front of, you know, his swing and cut that pipe in

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_05]: half of that stick. And then he turned that spirit, walked around him and it was like they

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_05]: always recorded my other cousin. She said they just frozen place and he went behind them and

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_05]: he just tapped him on the back of the leaf, both of them with that stick in the truck,

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_05]: the concussions that were trying to act off, you know, as a male and female cousin. And

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, and I'll of course tell their names because one's dead of course the other one

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_05]: she doesn't like even think about or talk about it. She's very devoted, um,

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know Christian or Lutheran or something, but she does not even, you know, she won't even

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_05]: and she thinks her out too much. And I think that's why she gravitated away from eating

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_05]: ways, you know, mainly because it's there to much. Anyway, so that taps him on, you know,

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_05]: this spirit taps him on the back of the leaves and they just dropped. And

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_05]: my other cousin took off running back up towards the house and you know, this is that night time.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, and so the house was like, you know, maybe, well, 150 feet away so she went running back up there.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_05]: They didn't know what to do. And so the other cousins said while you need to go back down and

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_05]: them, you know, because of course none of them wants to go. And so my cousin who was in the house,

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_05]: she got back, she's like, I'll go get him and she went out and she went down there.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And they were still there underneath. And so she basically grabbed and by the colors and dragged them

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_05]: and when I got to the house, they weren't themselves. They were basically, and I see them,

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, they're, they didn't look like themselves. They had this different look in their faces.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and it's hard to describe. But they just didn't look like them. And so then they

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_05]: start saying to my sister that those spirits we wanted her down there, they wanted her. They just

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_05]: rided down there and everybody stopped them. And, and this, you know, this is all going on.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, sudden, you know, because my mom, you know, like I said, my mom's back was back. And she called

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_05]: on her CD radio about what was going on. And some choker way, I don't know where, you know,

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_05]: because back then, everybody had, you know, a CD radio or some kind of the installation, whatever.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So he actually called the cops in Brown and they come race and out. And they were chasing something

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_05]: too there too. So they come race and out too at the same time and they come race and out

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_05]: and they pulled into the driveway and they went running in and they told everybody,

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_05]: because we literally, my cousin, grabbed me and my brother and, you know, were at that time,

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_05]: seven or eight years old, you know. And grab dust and we were in my dad's bathroom,

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, they're master bathroom and we were in their hiding. And I remember my cousin, she was

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_05]: just praying hard and crying. And so when they got there, they basically cleared the house and

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_05]: said, you know, you guys need to leave or chase something out here too. We don't know what it is,

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's been terrorizing all the way up through this coolant. Terrorizing people and now it's

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_05]: out here. And so we all hopped in and headed towards Brown and at that time my cousin still too

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_05]: that were, you know, really goofy acting and seeing like they weren't who they were,

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_05]: they were like, you know, yelling and saying we need to go back and all this stuff.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And we get them to the hospital because that's the only thing we could think of, you know,

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_05]: get them to the hospital and on the way it was really, you know, crazy because my mother,

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_05]: she called my aunt and one of my cousins, you know, because that was under her knees says,

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_05]: she comes racing over and it was like they died, like they just passed out. But they didn't

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_05]: have a heartbeat or anything. And when my cousins came their parents, her mother grabbed her

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_05]: and said something like you're not taking her or something like that. And when she did that,

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_05]: she come back to and say with my other cousins. And so they get them in the hospital, right?

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And my cousin, he weighed about at that time, he probably weighed about,

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_05]: or like I'd say maybe 160 pounds soaking wet. Who's the skinny guy but he was tall,

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: but he was tiny, you know, skinny. And so he's like fighting all the nurses and doctors

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_05]: and cops happen, you know, came with us too. And they were trying to hold them down. And now you

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_05]: got to remember these cops that were holding them down, you know, they were full-grown man that

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_05]: weighed like 260, you know, 250. These guys were big cops, you know? And so they're trying to hold

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_05]: down this little skinny guy. And he was literally throwing them like they were match sticks, you know,

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_05]: just tall. And people didn't know what to do, so they called and same with my cousin,

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_05]: the female, she was doing the same thing. They couldn't hook them to, you know, like time to the bed.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_05]: So they, you know, would do, so they called the Catholic priest. And so the Catholic priest came

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and he went in there and he started trying to know that. And, you know, pray with them in

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_05]: blah, blah, blah, they were screaming at burns and all this stuff. And, oh, I don't remember.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_05]: They put like a, I want to say like a re-sonum on their chest and they were screaming and they put

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_05]: breathing, you know, all this stuff in the meantime, they're still throwing these cops right off.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_05]: So my mom, in my dad, where when he could friends, his couple medicine people up there,

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_05]: now who they were, you know, they were cheap. Pretty powerful medicine. So she called them and she said,

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, I need you guys come up here. There's something going on here and I don't know what it is.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_05]: So they came up and as soon as they walked into the moon, both my cousins just settled down

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_05]: and they went all over there and they, you know, used their medicine and smudged them or whatever

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: they did and it was just like they went out and just passed out. So for four days,

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_05]: or really? Yeah, they didn't wake up for four days and when they've woke up,

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_05]: they didn't remember anything that happened. They all, all they remember is seeing a spirits.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Going down there and that spirit, you know, my cousin, we're trying to hit it with that and that's

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_05]: all he remembers. The other cousin that dragged them back up, you know, she saw I didn't see

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_05]: nothing down there and she said just for years. And finally, all about two or four years ago I

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_05]: was talking to her. I was talking about that. She knew what happened at night because

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_05]: whatever that thing goes through it's where they were using, they wanted my sister,

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_05]: they didn't want anybody else in that house, they wanted her specifically and she didn't want

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_05]: to go down there. And on my, on my dad's side, the women tend to have a lot of medicine. You know,

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_05]: we have a funda that they're, you know, they're holy women, we sit over and walk these. Not any

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_05]: more of course as much as they used it, you know, which is sad because that's that side of the

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_05]: family with them, you know, especially the women really involved in that stuff, you know,

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_05]: a ceremony of life and you know, I'm telling my dad that my sister was the same woman.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, she would go and hit out with him and sit while hurting my mom and self and let

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_05]: go to these ceremonies all the time. But after of course, God died to us to taste for everything.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It was a painful for her because she didn't want to, you know, remind me too much about it.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And anyway, so after they woke up these four, you know, four days later,

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_05]: they didn't remember anything. They said they didn't remember how they got there or anything like

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_05]: that. Whatever they were chasing out there, how lot of the cops because they didn't want to

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_05]: chase it. And what I would have spared some more, they were not too happy with anything, you know?

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And for years later, my cousin, those two cousins claimed that whenever they were looking

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_05]: in the mirror, their face would be twisted. That it, but it was only when they didn't see

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_05]: how many of them were going to see, what nobody was wrong and they could only see it

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_05]: when they were fighting themselves. You know, people say, oh, that's convenient, you know,

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, I believe they were. So my cousin, he didn't back to her to want that dragon to not

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_05]: years look down their own, you know, she claims she'd never seen nothing, never seen nothing.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And then finally one day we were talking, we were out of ceremony, of course. That's some

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_05]: guys who are hanging out on just chatting about different things, you know? And I got curious

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_05]: my last story. So what did you see down there when you went down there? It said, did you really

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_05]: not see anything? She kind of got quiet because she said, you know, she said, I get to

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_05]: she said, but I didn't tell anybody because I didn't want to cause a panic.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_05]: She said, I figured by just saying keeping my mouth shut, that that would be, you know, better

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_05]: for everybody because everybody was so freaked out. There was so scared. Because, you know,

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_05]: all these things were happening all the time out to that house, you know? And it was like every day,

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_05]: there wasn't, you know, or I hear something every now and then it was almost all the time.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And so she said, you know, I seen those two spirits that made that man and that woman in

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_05]: they were standing there and they just looked at him, she said, they didn't say nothing. I didn't

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_05]: interact with them, I just grabbed our two cousins and I called them up there. And you know,

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: she's a little tiny girl but she pulled them up there like they were, you know, just because,

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, she's strong. And she just pulled them up there because she said, I didn't want to

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_05]: stand there and try to figure out what the hell was going on. I just figured, I get to

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_05]: the mother here. I don't know what's going on here, but we gotta get out of here. So,

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_05]: going back to my brother and my half brother, one of my relatives who come down from Canada

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and he was the man out there and he was doing it this spirit kept opening the front door

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_05]: and he was brought there right. And he was mentioned through the curtain and then he went out

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and he put all of his friends out of here, he was singing and he started singing and he can hear

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_05]: all these people singing in the back and it's just him and his helper. But he told us,

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_05]: he said, when he cut that sweat down, he unleashed that, he said that banging and he

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_05]: heard in the middle night that was those bad ones trying to get in. And he said what they were doing

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and he said, when you sweat, you know, this is something that basically you create a shield over your home.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And if I do that, some of you said, you know, bad stuff can't get in. You know,

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, hitting it and then trying to just kept hitting it and hitting it and then finally broke it

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_05]: enough that they could get in. And so those things, those weird things, those events and all that

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: start happening because they wanted to make it happen, you know. My dad when he was lying

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_05]: to the feed them, that's kind of what kept him at bay, you know. Because that land there is so haunted

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_05]: that whatever happened and I heard all kinds of different days but one of the things that heard

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_05]: which kind of seems like the right one is that it was all battleground. You know, you hear always,

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_05]: so it's a even in burial ground. Well, it's not. I don't think I think something really bad

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_05]: happened there like a fight or something and a lot of anger, you know. And that's what

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_05]: was in there because, you know, that he didn't. Was kind of like the apex of all of it. And you

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_05]: know, I'm leaving out probably kind of bigger portions of it. But those kind of things,

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_05]: even years down the road when my sister knew back there, start happening again. You know,

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_05]: they start and you know, they started to, you know, start ramping back up, you know, little things like

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_05]: voices and my sister was, you know, living out there one day she said, you know, she kept hearing

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_05]: whispering her and her husband and they wanted all over the house or their house at the time.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Looking for this whispering, they couldn't find it so they just gave up.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_05]: So my brother and I he laid down on the couch and he was watching TV and then he just got really

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_05]: still and quiet. He's tells my sister, he come here, you know, and so she come all over to what?

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_05]: He's listening, listen. You can still hear that whisper. So they were listening, listening and

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_05]: pretty soon. They said, well, where is the coming from? You know, it sounds like it's coming from

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_05]: the couch and he said, I think it's coming from where my head is. So she said that she, they both

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_05]: listened to that couch and it was whispering from that couch, specifically a pillow he was laying on.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So she kicked that pillow up and she was listening that pillow was whispering her.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So she's like a tolder said, well, what did you do? And she said, I just picked it up,

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_05]: took it out to the trash can and threw it away. And you know, and so it's like,

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_05]: that and I told you about me and my brother, I don't know if I told you about getting chased by

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_05]: like her dolls and stuff right? Yeah, he mentioned that one once on the pot. Yeah, and so it's

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_05]: things like that that whatever happened out there or whatever it is that you know,

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_05]: is tied to that land is either really angry or really upset about something, you know?

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And so, and it's basically that section. It's not any other parts of that land. I'm sure

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_05]: that the other parts might have stuff going on in the UK state they long enough would probably

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_05]: have some weird stuff start happening. I've had people say, well, we should have said one

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_05]: is up there. I'm like, no, no. No, not because I don't want animals out here but I don't know

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to be responsible for what everything goes on up here either, you know? Well,

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_05]: my cousin, you know, when he talked about that and she said, yeah, they were there. She said,

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I just didn't want scare people and then I have another cousin, you know, um, that she

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_05]: also seems to have felt there that was, you know, very tied into that right after that event.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember I had a dream one night and I could see this like black shadow, but

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_05]: that's the way to put it is like the um, you would see the fry guys on the tunnels, commercials,

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_05]: remember those guys? Yeah. How they were all squeakly. Yeah. And it had tennis shoes on and

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I were, but I jumped about something like that, but it was solid black with red eyes, right?

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And scared to hell on me. And um, I didn't think much of it, but it was so vivid.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And so because me and my brother we didn't like being there by ourselves, you know?

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But another dream in that and you know, and I'm sitting there one day and I was

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_05]: uh, visiting one of my other cousins and I was telling her about that because she used to come and stay

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_05]: with her and her kids every now and then with my mom, you know, because I was her other than this.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was telling her about this and she's just looking at me like kind of crazy, you know,

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, you know, I'm telling her about this dream. And she goes, that's crazy. And I said,

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_05]: why is that? She said, because I went out there one day, she said, and I was going to have

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_05]: all three of my mom and I got in there, you know, back to those days. Nobody ever locked their door, you know?

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_05]: If you uh, show it up, you know, you just went in and sat down. And if nobody was there,

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_05]: you just tell you how long as you want it to, you know? And so she went out there and I don't know where

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I was or you lost but she went out there and she uh, she said I just walked in sat down on the kitchen table,

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: yelled around. And I said, and and here's the crazy part that she didn't tell anybody until I told

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_05]: her about that dream. She said, she went in there and she yelled. She said, you know, empty, are you here?

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And in the back room, somebody yelled back. Yeah, I'm back here. I'll be in.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So she said, I said, I called coffee because it was called to you. And then I sat down,

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_05]: waited and waited, drinking my coffee. She said, please sit in my fuck.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_05]: She said, taking one, no? So she said, I got up out of my chair and I said, okay,

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna go see if the heck they're doing. She went walk and back there. When in every room,

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: because our our place was for bedroom, then we see that one, two, three, yep for bedroom place.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So she went in there and she looked at the every room, nobody in anywhere. And so she just walked

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_05]: back in with a kitchen. Drank her coffee, put it in the sink and walked out because her in her mind,

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_05]: she said, if you show fear, that's when they'll screw with. And so she just simply grabbed

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_05]: their stuff and walked up the foot door, closed and got into her car. And then she was driving away.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_05]: She said, this is where I didn't tell them about it because I'm living in the state of the city.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But she said, I turned around for what her reason why it worked. Back up your guys' tiles, you know?

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And in the kitchen window, which was you know, pretty good size, and what was it,

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_05]: huge, but it was pretty enough. There was this thing that was all hairy and striking.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_05]: You looked at her head right glow and now I said, it was looking out that window, better.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So she said, I just simply turned and headed out as fast as I could.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And I just got shivers up my back. There's like, oh my god, because in my dream, that's where I saw it

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_05]: looking up and teaching me the Latin. And so I dream about that house every day.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And in those dreams, all seeds, things like that. And you know, I don't think that, you know,

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think any of that stuff was time to the house. That was tied to the land. Because that house

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_05]: got moved years down the road nothing ever happened again, but we all remember that house.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And so like I said, whatever is out there, you know, one of my sister for our reason,

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_05]: that could be the reason over and over the no one night. You know, just all of this other crazy stuff

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_05]: that would go on, you know? And it always tended around kind of my sister.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, it never really bothered me my brother. Besides seeing all that little golfing that

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_05]: folks in the ball, you know, they're acting in the mudall, which was, you know,

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_05]: scary stuff because I thought I made it up in my mind, you know, those things and my brother

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_05]: confirmed me some love as real. You know, um, so I don't know, you know, like it's really interesting

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_05]: because you know, depending on how you do this and guess in this way,

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_05]: we happen to be really money so much. You know, there's a lot of people out there that they

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_05]: don't want some preaching, but you know, they want to learn this stuff.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_05]: You want to carry it, you know, they want to help, you know, different medicines,

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_05]: rights to different things, all this stuff. But they don't know the consequences behind them.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_05]: It's every time you get a right to something to do, you know, that's asking from whoever

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_05]: there's a balanced right? And so you have this balance of, uh, I want to say good

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_05]: first evil, but maybe the first positive, you know, and so obviously there's spirits out there that are

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_05]: more about, you know, it's disrupting people's lives or we want something that's back, you know?

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you have the light side of it that, you know, it's trying to keep that balance. But

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_05]: there's a balance. So every time you get a right to something or you need to do something like

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_05]: sweat, there's things on the other side of it that you have to pay a bunch of. You know?

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But you know, that was just one, you know, thing that was that realistic side of my mind has

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_05]: really scared because, you know, possession of things like that, that's something, you know,

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_05]: people want to say, well just a, you need to be in stable person or a master's area.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's my favorite word, you know, master's area and it's like, no, it's not master's area.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you see it in person? There's a whole different ballgame going on there, you know?

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been to sweat lodges that they take you things off people, you know? That were really wicked and scary.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but see that's the other thing. People don't realize that like,

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: playing with things that we have to slowly learn, you know? Um, so like a lot of people out there,

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, they see the American stars and they start trying to use like,

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_05]: staging their homes. You see, it's a good talk that he always thinks like that.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Where the whole of the awareness of things, they know in the way that this is.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And if you don't know how to use it, you're actually contributing to the problem.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Then you are solving the problem. The other thing that I always tell people to is, you know,

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_05]: they'll ask me, what do you think, you know, what you're going to do to have this stuff stop happening?

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm saying you told people, um, well, you've got to stop doing this stuff that you're doing,

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, during the day when they're doing drugs, allowing that stuff to come into your home.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you're calling it it, wanting to use that all the smudging the world. But if you don't

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_05]: clean up your act, you're just bringing up it. You know, you might be good for

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_05]: you maybe a couple of days, maybe a week, how are you been a month?

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_05]: But as soon as you start back on that road that you just came off of, you're bringing them

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: right back in. You've been fighting, you know, arguing with each other, getting,

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: oh yeah, you know, hard, hard thoughts against each other, that brings it back.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, geez, even just having a dirty house, you know, that they can be attracted to that too.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of things that people do. I don't think they realized, um,

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: that they're inviting something in, you know, because it's so, it doesn't seem like it means a lot.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But it really does, you know, and you need all my anti-home referring to your she's to always

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_01]: get honest as kids. You guys make sure and keep this place clean. This was always preaching

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: that to us make sure it's clean because, you know, those bad ones are attracted to this. Don't

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: let it get, you know, dirty. She kind of drilled that point home with that one area over

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_05]: anyways. You know, she was right on the head with that because that's, it's about the chaos,

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, those those negative spirits they like chaos, you know, they like to see a person fall

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_05]: because that's how they're getting. That's how they get their their agenda going, you know?

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, it's, it's amazing, you know, how people don't realize that. You know,

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_05]: that this chaos and all this stuff that they created in their own lives is what's causing a lot of

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_05]: their stuff. You know, I, I'm a skeptical person when it comes to like spirits and things like

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_05]: that, not because I don't go even them. But I, I also believe that not everything that happens to

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_05]: you is spirits, you know, like, I'm sure you're running back into people that say,

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_05]: someone used medicine on me. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know, and I'm like, you don't even know what that is.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you kind of investigate into their background and you know what they've been saying

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_05]: well, but all this happened to me. I know some reasons medicine, blah, blah. And he realized that,

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_05]: no, they're creating that themselves. You know, they, they, you know, if you remember that kind of

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_05]: slap in medicine, I think. Yeah. When I got it said, I don't know why everybody walks away from me

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_05]: when I show up, you know, and he goes, well, um, are you talking crap? Now, guys, those

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_05]: guys, I also bring now and then and get slapped in the face. Because, uh, well, not get off.

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_05]: That's basically what that is. You know, it's basically the same thing where, um, just because

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_05]: you're having a bad luck which a lot of times that's what you're, you know, you are being to yourself.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_05]: When medicine hits you real medicine, it's fast and it's worth it. You know, it's not,

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_05]: it's not this, oh, you know, I saw my tower. Oh, I lost my job. You know, it's, it's, it's almost

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_05]: like it happens and so fast that by the time you figure it out, it's like everything around you

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_05]: has just crashed. Um, you know, we all have bad days and things like that. But when it's

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_05]: really obvious, you know, it's a very obvious thing. It's not, um, this little tiny little things

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_05]: like, like one month maybe you lost your job and then next month, oh, you lost the keys to your

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_05]: car or you lost your clothes, you know, and, or maybe the month after that, you lost your house.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you weren't paying you mortgage. You know, things like that, you know, that's, that's normal

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_05]: life. And but when it all happens at once where, you know, all these people that you're close

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_05]: to start buying around you, you know, like sometimes that's the sort of bad luck. But other times

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_05]: it's pretty obvious because medicine doesn't work the way people think it works. It takes away

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_05]: everything you love in your life every week. Um, and it happens very fast. It doesn't take you away.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: It takes every single way from me. And that's the scary part that people don't understand.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, anyway, that's, you know, so I, I'm always like, like when people tell me that stuff

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_05]: on, I listen, you know, and I of course, you know, if I really feel like it's something

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_05]: or that, you know, I can help with, I'll try to help, you know. But if it's something that

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I can help with, I always say, okay, well, we'll see this person, you know.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. Let's see if they can help you. Um, it's, it's just so interesting, you know, but

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: things like that, like my brother doing that to my dad's sweat. Um, you know, he got his come

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_05]: up at the top of that and it happened fast. Um, was it medicine? I don't know, but it, it seemed

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_05]: like a very strange state, you know. Um, and at the same time after he had done that,

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: that's when everything started happening. You know, it started out with little kind of stuff,

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, hearing things like that, I'm then things walking up and down on the hall, you know,

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_05]: people crying outside, grow and things like that. And you know, of course,

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_05]: they're not in the morals or to see stuff like that. I don't think that means I just think

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_05]: that pissed about something, you know, um, because something, you know, maybe something was taking,

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_05]: well, most likely something is taking from maybe their lives and something, you know, that

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_05]: that it was right. And you know, in the Indian world, we're all about taking care of those

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_05]: which, you know, people, you know, when people die in the Western world, they just die, you know,

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_05]: they don't, you know, sometimes they say they think of them like distant memories like,

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, now that this crisis that we're not going to be talked about, I'm not even remember

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, not all the time but you know, we don't, we don't have closure for that. We were

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_05]: sent, you know, they don't have closure. They don't, you know, put things out for them. They don't

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_05]: pray to them. And you know, it's the people I bring to you know, I have a few non-Indian friends

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_05]: that are really good about, you know, still praying to their, you know, they're all to the

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_05]: ancestors that were, you know? And I think that's important every day because it helps not only

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_05]: what the closure you need in the world, but also in our world we do need that by, you know,

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_05]: do anything like that and give my all things to suffer like that. And remember them,

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_05]: that we're helping them on that side as they're helping us on this side. And then if that makes sense,

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: why don't you know, since you know? Yeah they, what's more to is, they really like it when

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: when you tell funny stories about it. Or if that's laughing and having a good time and remembering

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_01]: them in a good way, they really liked that. Oh yeah, that makes them not be it. Well, I think, you know,

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_05]: it's like, you know, I think that you're right about that is because it's like, they know you're

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_05]: care about them. And but also just it brings that mood up, you know, it brings up that positive stuff

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_05]: that they left for you too, you know? Because of course everybody has to make it their stuff too.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That they had with these individuals and stuff like that, but, you know, for giving them

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_05]: the move forward is important too, you know? Anyway, that's this, you know, that's kind of

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_05]: how I think about a lot of this stuff, you know, I was like I was telling the other day

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_05]: about thinking about some of the people I'm not, you know, in my life that showed me different things

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_05]: and taught me different things and you know I'm writing bads that you're thinking about these people

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_05]: about some of the stuff that they were telling about how, you know, as people, then, you know, on

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_05]: the conversation with you, I don't go into it because I don't think people should know a lot of it.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, I had something come sit on my bed and, um, and you know, I'm wide awake when

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm in my office and, scared to heck out of me because I saw what the heck is this and I flipped around

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was you know, this is big significant others, you know, snuck you know, I'm just

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_05]: somehow. And where did I side it was still dipped? I literally put my hand there, you know, I'll feel

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_05]: that dipping that in that meruchess and I'm like wow. And I saw it well, so I'm telling Tom,

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_05]: the lady, I'm like, what do you know, she says? I mean, once you're smudging I'm like, yeah, we're all right.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, like you brought up, who is that? Because I'm thinking about these different people that are

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_05]: was that person coming and checking on them just saying, hey, are you okay? Or, no, I'm here,

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_05]: listen. Um, after the old man passed on, I remember him telling me a story and I don't know if

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I told you this or not. But years ago when he was still here, he told me there's a spirit

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_05]: that comes and comforts you sometimes when you're really down, you know? And it's a female spirit

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_05]: and she says, follow love. And he said, when something's taking from a person especially in your life,

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_05]: that was really important to you, she'll come and comfort you. And so when he passed away, I really had

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_05]: hard courage to, you know, I cried and really just, you know, have you, you know, because my dad passed on

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_05]: and he was, you know, my Sarah get that. And my heart was this torn part, you know? And I can tell

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_05]: you honestly, I don't, you know, it's not that I don't love my friends and my brothers, you know,

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and I don't, it's not that I don't cry for them. It's just like it comes out a different way

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_05]: from you know, something to cry so you don't. But there's only a few people at the high floor in my

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_05]: life, you know? And he was one of them. And so I'm thinking about his story that he told me,

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I go home, I was living, you know, a complex apartment and, you know, it was like five days of

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: two-in-one services, you know, giving up the crack of dawn, 16, and all this stuff. And then

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_05]: so when I got home, I was just dead, you know, just completely, just completely drained

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and then she saw I walked into my little apartment. There was this little food taunt, you know,

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_05]: those college food taunts that everybody had. That pulled out into a bed. So I go in and I didn't

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_05]: even unpack my stuff. I just left everything in the car and it went in and I just lay on that

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_05]: food taunt and just passed out. And about, well I don't know, probably about three, four in the morning,

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I just woke up like just like me talking to you right now, just woke up. And when I woke up,

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I could just sense that somebody was there. And it was like two people helped me down on that food

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_05]: town. And you know, like when somebody's holding me down, you're going to get pressed down, right?

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So like when they pressed me down in that food taunt, I mean, really pressed me down. I thought myself

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_05]: sinking into it. They were holding me and this other spirit came in and it was that woman spirit.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I know it was because I could see, you know, a heart of the sky, but I could see her in my mind's eye.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And she was just beautiful and all baby like white and she like came over and

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_05]: like just put like white into my back. And it was just like all this dark grayish light came

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_05]: off the front of me onto the floor. And it was just like when she did that, it just went in seconds.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I just started up because they'd let go of me and I started real fast. You know,

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I've had a culture of a decision at first because it started with you know? And

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_05]: as look around nobody in there, they were right on. And um,

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_05]: there were so much energy in me, so much like like peace and just like balance, you know,

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_05]: and you just like I just felt like a different piercey sitting there. And you know,

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: mind just or in the morning I'm like, what just happened? You know? And uh,

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what I talked to later about that, but they said it was most likely

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_05]: they didn't take you that green coffee, you know? Yeah. And trying to give you some solace that

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, you're going to be okay. And uh, just makes me sad and happy at the same time, you know?

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, because things like that, you know, we have all these new things where tall going up and

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_05]: in the evening way and stuff that, um, we don't know about until it happens to us. I mean,

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_05]: if we know about but we don't know it. And so when that happens, it's really interesting

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_05]: to say that happens, you know? Because then we're like, wow, no. So and so told me this. And

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I now it happened to me. Um, I don't know if you ever go ahead that time is stuff happened, but

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_05]: it's such a such an iron moment. Um, I've had, you know, in that single house, it's

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_05]: one time in Lailmore on the food farm, sleeping and I heard my name that called out.

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was a lot of the day like several satellites. And so I'm trying to sleep in the bay and I

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_05]: hear this, some of y'all my name just wow. And I opened my eyes and uh, these two shadow are the shadow

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_05]: coming across the moon that had it's a hollow like it had, but what the name is? And I automatically

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_05]: put my arms up in front of my face because I thought they were even from a face, you know.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Now I swear I thought it was somebody with an axe. You know, it was so quick.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And I put my arms up to stop it. You know, I thought, oh god, you want somebody broke in there.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Attacking me. And when I put my hands up, nothing happened. So I put my hands down and

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, it was nobody there. So I called you know, somebody got me both known and said, hey,

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_05]: you need to think about this. It's okay what you need to do this in this.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And uh, so I did. And it's just like the house laid up after I did what he said, you know.

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_05]: He said, no, who it is, but he said, let me just try and um, try to hurt you somehow.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know, sometimes you know they'll try to do that stuff.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And you just gotta chase him out. So he said, you know, also he said there's a lot of people

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_05]: on that way. They're living that mess around with medicine and then try to hurt people.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And sometimes you can, you know, in the wrong spot at the wrong time, you're going to get hit.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, that was the first time something like that happened to me. I had, um, you know, rattles, right?

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I remember hearing when coming from far off and right through, well, I was sitting in

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_05]: my doctor that really got because it went right by my ear. And it was just like,

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_05]: like that. And I learned that and I heard it keep continuing when I was talking about my

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_05]: well, it said, yeah, there were somebody was fighting somebody else. You know,

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_05]: and you just missed about, you know, it's a really dark.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_05]: He said because of you that hit you, you might have got hurt when you died.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_05]: He said, people don't know if you want to tell that stuff to them, you know,

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and they're money happens to you then it's like, you know,

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_05]: um, there's a whole different world that we come from.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_05]: This is just parts of the side of the people.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll continue our discussion about all of this in the next episode. And

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[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, our house would have flipped flopped the episodes out of put this in the

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[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: wrat with these two episodes that we have for this month and more is going to follow. You know, so

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[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_01]: all these stories and share stories back some of my own. You know, I really enjoy doing it. So

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just thankful that you guys are along for the ride and I hope y'all continue to support the

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